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posted 04-03-2001 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRLevels   Click Here to Email TRLevels     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've started my Titanic level, and i need to know what you think.

*NOTE*

The textures shown are not the one's i'm going to be using. If i can help it. They were just there to test. I really need some proper Titanic textures or it just don't look right, As you can see on the pics. The second pic is there cos i need to know what you think about the bow. I don't think it look right, from looking at the pictures from Titanic: Adventure Out Of Time. But that's the best i could get it.

Tell me what you think!


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posted 04-03-2001 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tom992     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What, you mean in as much detail as poss? Find a pic of Titanic to get these. Titanic wasn't just one long object, it had dips towards the back and front for promenades, etc. go to www.titanicmovie.com to see if they have any pics.

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posted 04-03-2001 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRLevels   Click Here to Email TRLevels     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, i know about the promanades, i love the Titanic!
I've been busy today adding the A Deck promonade, which is using up about 10 rooms!
Screenshots of that will be coming soon...

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posted 04-03-2001 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nigel1985   Click Here to Email Nigel1985     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey Lara, on your boat did you have the ship come to a point on all the front sides, cause i have a boat level also and i having trouble doin that cause the level editor doesnt let you do slanted walls.

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posted 04-03-2001 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nigel1985   Click Here to Email Nigel1985     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
being a little more clear... cause on a boat the side walls near the front slope down and inward...so how did you do that, cause in mine,my boat looks more like a barge then a cruise linear(which i was goin for, any tips would be appreciated. Thanks

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posted 04-03-2001 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRLevels   Click Here to Email TRLevels     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You mean the "point" on the bow?

That took me a while to do too.
It's pretty hard to explain. I sort of made traingles with the blocks, and kept alternating the way they faced, and it made a diagonal line untill it came to a point at the front of the ship.
I know it's not explained it much, but i hope it helps!

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posted 04-03-2001 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRLevels   Click Here to Email TRLevels     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a quick snap of the A Deck promonade. Remember *not the real textures*
Plus i gotta add some extra stuff on the promonade

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posted 04-04-2001 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nigel1985   Click Here to Email Nigel1985     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neil, is your level mainly on the decks, cause in mine lara only stays on teh front for a breif times, then goes into the ship and into the rooms and stuff, then she later comes back to the outside part of the ship and does a little more... have any suggestions for me, cause i think we are the only ones doin boat levels, and we could really help each other out, if your interested in playin my level so far and helping me out e-mail me at Nigel@nycap.rr.com
Good Luck!

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posted 04-04-2001 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara Severi   Click Here to Email Lara Severi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never made a boat before. but Pwhirl has. E-mail him and ask him how he did it!

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posted 04-04-2001 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Colin Grigson   Click Here to Email Colin Grigson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or you could take a look at "Infiltration" by seven125

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posted 04-05-2001 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRLevels   Click Here to Email TRLevels     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Daaaaaaaaaayum!

I had a really big problem last night. The WAD wasen't outputting again. I tried everything i could do to fix it, and i tried all the suggestions you gave me but it didn't work. *Sigh*

Lucky i've got a lot of saved project files though. But i can't believe it, i lost 2 full decks!!!!!

Ah well, back to work!

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I'm actually glad i lost my work! I've just re-done everything what i did in the previous project file, and more! Plus it made me remember stuff that needed to be on it. It looks loads better now, even if i do say so myself

Plus i made a couple of textures for it, not too many. 4 Actually
Most of the textures in Coastal have just what i need.



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posted 04-06-2001 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRLevels   Click Here to Email TRLevels     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way, does anyone know what program i need to use too change the horizon image? I've seen it used on another level, and i need it because the Titanic looks pretty silly sailing through desert mountains!

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posted 04-06-2001 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara Severi   Click Here to Email Lara Severi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wowwwwwww!!!

That level looks mint!!

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posted 04-06-2001 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blacknile   Click Here to Email blacknile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You edit the horizon graphics the same way you edit Lara's outfit. Maybe if you copy the horizon from the wad you want into the wad you are using. Strpix does that. You can also modify the sky by editing the .raw file for that wad.

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posted 04-06-2001 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRLevels   Click Here to Email TRLevels     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

Oh, i need a bit more help here...
I'm having lots of problems with the horzon breaking up, because the line of site in the level is way over 20 squares! I can't just put a column or something in there to break up the line of sight, it's the Titanic!!! This looks really awfull on the fly-by i've done, so if anyon knows how i can fix it, please help!!!

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posted 04-06-2001 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blacknile   Click Here to Email blacknile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I encountered exactly the same problem with my level and decided to switch to a night level. My level is very open and the horizon was popping up at every turn so i got rid of it. I did try this though. If you created a wall say 3 blocks high around your room and texture it but leave the higher parts of the wall tranparent you wont see the horizon directly in front you will have to look up. I did this on my level and it looked o.k but i still decided to switch to night time. It sucks but it's just part of the editor i guess.

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posted 04-06-2001 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara Severi   Click Here to Email Lara Severi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or make it like TR3 and use textures for the sky. No sky graphics, no breakout.

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posted 04-06-2001 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRLevels   Click Here to Email TRLevels     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good idea.

Know where i can get any good sky/ocean pics at night?

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Have you downloaded the extra textures from http://www.eidosinteractive.com/downloads/index.html? In textures.zip under "Other Media" you'll find the texture set used in the 'titanic' level in TR2.....

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posted 04-06-2001 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRLevels   Click Here to Email TRLevels     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, i've got them, and they are the Maria Doria levels. But why did they call them Titanic? Sure, it's a sunken ship, but they should have put Maria or something.

Anyways, i'm using those textures for the sunken Titanic, they are all old and rusty. Not too good for a newly built ship!

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posted 04-06-2001 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moose562   Click Here to Email moose562     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good enough for a ship that has been at the bottom of the ocean for over 80 years!!!
Oh I am so distraught. MY titanic level was sooo cool, but totally unrealistic, but I used catacombs for the level cos you get the drippy noise in the background. Oh I want a new idea for a level, how about one set on the movie? I am gonna start a new thing with the re-launch of TRClothes. It even has a special name, like the big project and that other one about a phoenix or a falcon, I can't remember. Oh well, I have a wicked idea and I want to patent it before somebody else thinks of it!!! He he he.
Ok, sorry, nervous breakdown here!!!
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posted 04-08-2001 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRLevels   Click Here to Email TRLevels     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a new pic.
It's almost finished, but as you can see at the top i'm still having those horizon break-out problems...
You can also see inside the decks onthe right hand side. *NOTE* They are not going to be the on'es Lara will be walking around in. This model is just for the fly-by at the beginning. I'll make a totally different interior, so i've got loads more rooms to work with

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posted 04-08-2001 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tom992     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will you be doing the grand staircase, turkish bath's, swimming bath and squash court in your level?

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posted 04-09-2001 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRLevels   Click Here to Email TRLevels     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll be doing just about all of the rooms that you see in Titanic: Adventure Out Of Time. Because i've played that game like 20 times and i know what just about every room looks like. But you don't get to go in every room, so i'll miss out the same ones too. The Grand Staircase, i'll try to get it in there, but it will probably look very silly and really unrealistic, because of everything in the level editor being made up of blocks!
I'll get the Turkish Bath, the Squash Court, the Cafe Parisian, The Gym, Scotland Road, the Smoking Room, the Engine Room, the Control Room, the Lifts (i doubt they'll work though, unless anyone can make lifts ) I'll also put the Wireless Room and the Bridge on, if i decide to let Lara roam around on deck.

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posted 05-29-2001 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bullet ridden monkey   Click Here to Email Bullet ridden monkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me guess, this project has now been scrapped right?

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posted 05-29-2001 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elpasodude   Click Here to Email Elpasodude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's so sad, but so true!

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posted 05-29-2001 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lil Kid   Click Here to Email Lil Kid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WHAT? The project hasn't been scraped, Neil is busy working on it!

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posted 05-29-2001 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m   Click Here to Email m     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, I'm missing something. Neil, where are the pictures you keep talking about? All I see are little adverts for Crosswinds.net!

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posted 05-29-2001 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael P   Click Here to Email Michael P     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...that is probably because it is an old thread and Neil has changed providers in the meantime...not so sure about the status of his Titanic Level though, can't find anything on his page

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posted 05-29-2001 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m   Click Here to Email m     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops! I didn't notice that this thread was started back in April! Thanks Michael P!

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posted 05-29-2001 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lil Kid   Click Here to Email Lil Kid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need to cut and paste the image link into ur browser 4 it 2 show.

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