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85
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posted 05-12-2001 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 85   Click Here to Email 85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's what i figured out... it's not perfect but it's sumthing-


PROGRAMS NEEDED

-TRViewer 0.80
-STRPix3
-Rhinoceros
-Crossroads Converter (Get it)


INSTRUCTIONS

1.) Using TRViewer, open the TR file containing the object you wish to retrieve.
2.) Find the object and then right-mouse click on the object's name and select "Export to 3DS" and save it sumwhere.
3.) Load Rhinoceros and open the file you saved it under.
4.) You're going to need to resize the object because @ the moment it is extremely large ( too big to be imported). To do this, click the "Transform" menu, click the "Scale" sub-menu, and then click "Scale 3-D". Click on point above the object and then click again below the object in the "Perspective" screen. Resize the object. *You may need to do a little trial and error here, unless you can find sum way to scale it.*
5.) Save the file as a .3DS file (don't try to save it as .DXF yet, it'll mess things up).
6.) Load the Crossroads Coverter, and open the .3DS file you saved the resized object to.
7.) Save that file as AutoCAD (.DXF).
8.) Load STRPix3 and open the .WAD file you want to import the object mesh into.
9.) Scroll through the meshes until you find a single intact mesh under one of the ANIMATION slots in the .WAD file.
10.) Click "Import Dxf" under the file menu and then select the converted .DXF file.
11.) Finally, save the .WAD file.


PROBLEMS

-The process is very time consuming.
-The objects are not solid (you can walk through them in the game).
-The textures do not show up.


That's it!! To see a picture of the results, click here.

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Elpasodude
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posted 05-12-2001 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elpasodude   Click Here to Email Elpasodude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great. Make me the meteorite cavern wad (with the bil 'ol spider dude).

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billy the kid
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posted 05-12-2001 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for billy the kid   Click Here to Email billy the kid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to give this a try but were can I get TRViewer 0.80 from????

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posted 05-12-2001 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robbase     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.geocities.com/ev_popov/index2.html

Popov is up to V0.90 and gaining .tr4 support

-Rob

[This message has been edited by robbase (edited 05-12-2001).]

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billy the kid
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posted 05-13-2001 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for billy the kid   Click Here to Email billy the kid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robbase, just loaded it down. I'm looking forwards to trying it.. Billy

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posted 05-13-2001 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Flash   Click Here to Email Flash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait till WADmerger 1.7. I bet you'll run out of words. Or maybe go to trwad.50megs.com and look around a bit.

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posted 05-14-2001 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Turbo Pascal   Click Here to Email Turbo Pascal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>5.) Save the file as a .3DS file (don't try >to save it as .DXF yet, it'll mess things >up).

You can save DXF from Rhino selecting "3dface" method and "Autocad ver 13" option in the DXF export dialog.

>-The objects are not solid (you can walk through them in the game).

If you replace a original solid object for your new Object then it wil be solid too.

Or you can use TRLE to edit the object colision info.

T.P.

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billy the kid
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posted 05-14-2001 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for billy the kid   Click Here to Email billy the kid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please sir! I have a question????
Ok....I followed the instructions to the letter and at the end of it all I get an error message from Strppx3 saying 'defa' is not a valid integer value.....what????. This kind of thing happens all the time to me, I should have stuck to cattle rustling...I mean!!!er! please help guys...what's wrong..Billy

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robbase
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posted 05-14-2001 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robbase     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Billy I had this prob for a lil while too. before you save as dfx. double check everything. make sure all objects have a layer name as Turbo described. to do this hit select all (so all parts of your model are highlighted green) next click edit, bottom of drop down menu click object properties. when you get the next menu click objet info. here you will get a list of all the objects that your model is composed of. each one must have a layer name, I.E.. texture_xxx of flipped_xxx. if any object dose not have this you will not be successful. also if you have not downloaded the new version since a few days ago, do so it works better then ever.
Turbo is a genius.

good luck -rob

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billy the kid
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posted 05-14-2001 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for billy the kid   Click Here to Email billy the kid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Howdy Robbase..
when you said..."go to edit...click object properties" this was in Rhino???was'nt it. I'm still getting the error message???? And!!!the 'new version'..Strpix3 right????
Billy.

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posted 05-14-2001 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robbase     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's right.

I have had much better luck with rhino lately. the problems I was having before where due to my own confusion. when Turbo describes saving the object as a layer name, I was thinking of the entire model as a single object. any model is actually made up of several or many objects. (each one must have this layer name). the associated texture is less important, as long as you assign one to the layer. (you can always retexture latter).

other things to note:
the vertices limitation of aprox 255. this refers to the number of vert's when the mod is in strpix.
when you are working in rhino as a *.3dm, you will have a higher number of vertices.
it is when you save back to dxf in the manner Turbo describes that your vertices will come back down.

if you have any more confusion I will be happy to help.
C ya -rob



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billy the kid
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posted 05-15-2001 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for billy the kid   Click Here to Email billy the kid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What can I say to you Robbase...I've just took a gander at the altered motor bike and thought it was brill. Not that I'm into purple choppers but the fact that were able to convert it and get Lara to ride the thing....Ooh Wee!!!I looked at my little gold bar (in 'the well of the lost soul') and mine looks very insignificant. Your achieving what I think is the way many of should go to achieve something special...a level we've designed ourselves and not had to go out and buy!!! How do you "save an object as a layer name" lke you described as this seems to be were I'm falling down. Once again Robbase...Ooh Wee!!! Billy

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posted 05-15-2001 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for robbase     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem Billy.
I will write a detailed tutorial on this process ( complete with screen shots of the Rhino interface).
I will try to have it published on my site by tonight, or tomorrow at the latest.

also thank you so much for your kind comments!
-rob



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posted 05-15-2001 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for billy the kid   Click Here to Email billy the kid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You do a tutorial amigo Robbase and I promise you that men will step asside in the street when they see you come, women will want to have your children!!!!!! well, perhaps I'm a tad to excited. Seriously tho, It would be the answer to this ol' cowboys dreams....I'm a slow learner and this sounds great.... can't wait. Brill....thanks. Billy

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posted 05-15-2001 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for psiko   Click Here to Email psiko     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot dounload trviewer.... please can someone send it to me???? I will really appreciate it!

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