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Driber_IF
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posted 05-19-2001 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok people, because this community has helped me out so much with level building, I wanna give something back to ya all!

I'm going to start a project for listing all objecs from the level editor WADs and also all the TR4 WADs.

The result of this project will become available on the web to help out level editors who are searching for just THAT object needed in their level.

Level builders who are intrested in teaming up, please sign below and I'll send you full information about the project.

It's gonna be a lot of work, so we need a lot of people who want to help other level builders out there!

And ofcourse, the more people who sign up, the less work one man has to do.

Ok, lemme hear from ya


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Elpasodude
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posted 05-19-2001 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elpasodude   Click Here to Email Elpasodude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW!!! That is GREAT!!!

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posted 05-19-2001 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robbase     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll lend a hand. I slould @ least be able cover 1 wad.

-rob

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posted 05-20-2001 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Elpasodude: I know, but are ya in or out?
Robbase: witch wad is that?

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posted 05-20-2001 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaleR   Click Here to Email DaleR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I already have a complete listing that I made for anyone who wants it.

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Driber_IF
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posted 05-20-2001 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
really...what's the url?

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posted 05-20-2001 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mulf   Click Here to Email Mulf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a splendid idea that is—however, a mere listing of items is not of great help, even if it had comments in it like “FURNITURE6...a column”. I’d opt for a list accompanied by images which show the objects’ texture, tint and size.

That’s a lot of work but it would be really helpful. Count me in for yet another wad.

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posted 05-20-2001 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nice for thinking of that, but that was acually my intentionally idea, to display a screenshot, so people can see with door or puzzle item will fit in their level

I've made a start to show how the thing is gonna look when it's done, so await an e-mail soon

ANY MORE TAKERS????

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posted 05-20-2001 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gail854   Click Here to Email Gail854     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll help. I already have pics of most of the objects in all the wads except the Times Level (I haven't downloaded it yet)using print screen. Are you going to co-ordinate this so we won't all work on the same wad? Let me know what or which ones to do.

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posted 05-20-2001 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, I'll keep track who will do witch wad, so we won't do double work and also we all do the same amount of work

I'm almost done with the first one, witch will function as the example for the others, so expect an e-mail soon!

in witch wad(s) have you made screenshots of objects?

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posted 05-20-2001 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mulf   Click Here to Email Mulf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it is indeed of vital importance that this whole thing should be coordinated in order to avoid double and triple and multiple work; there should also be some guidelines as to what the images are supposed to look like.

I propose that the images should be taken from the editor window via the ‘print screen’ function. The image shows the object in question next to a baddie or a block 3 clicks high (as Lara substitute) in the corner of an untextured default room (or a room with simple and contrastive textures) whose wall panels have a hight suitable for an easy assessment of the object’s size.
The image should probably best be a 320x256 JPG.

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posted 05-21-2001 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
looks like you and I are on the same wave length on this, Mulf!
Yesterday, I wrote a "guideline" as you call it, to make sure everyone uses the same method, otherwise the images will not go together.

We're using a method of taking a screenshot from the level editor as you say, but only with the object, not any reference baddies
or walls or something.

This is done, because if we place Lara or a block next to every object, the file size of the whole project would rocket sky high! Remember that eventually, we're going to cover EVERY wad from TR4, so that's a lot of objects!

So the screenshot background will be completely white.
Mulf, I've sended you an e-mail yesterday with the full details and a example (tut1 wad), so check your mail

Any more people who want to team up on this project?

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posted 05-21-2001 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mulf   Click Here to Email Mulf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Driber_IF,

I would very definitely vote for a reference object in the image, as I think it’s really important that one can easily make out whether the column fits into a room seven clicks high or whether it’s twice that size...

Anyway, I leave that up to you—but until now, there is no e-mail from you in my postbox. Just to make sure, the address is wurstsalon@gmx.de .

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posted 05-21-2001 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, hey, Mulf
I thought wurstsalon@gmx.de was the adress of Gail854....sorry Gail854!!!

I got the e-mail right back with the following error message:
"Remote host said: 550 {mx19} The recipient does not accept mails from 'yahoo.com' over foreign mailservers"

how do we fix this?

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posted 05-21-2001 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mulf   Click Here to Email Mulf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, I see...now that this is sorted out, the other problem was that yahoo.com was on my anti-spam hotlist. I have taken it from this list now for the time being, so it should work now.

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posted 05-21-2001 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
k, check your mail then!
hope it works this time.....

TO Gail854: what kinda screenshots did you make from the wads you covered?
send me an e-mail with an example please!

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posted 05-21-2001 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mulf   Click Here to Email Mulf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This time it worked.

I'll give you a comprehensive answer later.

Until then, bye

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posted 05-21-2001 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gail854   Click Here to Email Gail854     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Driber,
I have shots of all the objects in all of the wads that came with the editor, Lil Kids page and from a site called Von Croy's Homepage which has some different ones than Lil Kid's. He'll probably have these too. They are split wads and I don't like it very much but the objects are there nonetheless. When I did this, it was for my own personal use so I didn't use a reference object for size. I thought if I liked the looks of an object I would just load the editor with that wad and see what it looked like. It is hard, as Mulf suggests, to tell how big some of them are. Here's just a suggestion.. could we maybe place an object in an untextured room that has the walls divided using the ceiling and floor +/- into 4 clicks each? We would have a background of different shades of green to tell us about how tall each object was.
I'm leaving town for 2 weeks on Wednesday but I will check back with you when I return to see what wads you would like me to work on and how things are going in general. Please let me know the guidelines you settle on and I'll get to work when I get back. Just leave me an email on what to do.
email... dale@siscom.net

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posted 05-21-2001 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dude, already sended you an e-mail yesterday with all the info, didn't ya get it???

if you didn't for some reason, you can get it from my website
click on Object Archive in the Tomb Raider menu

there you will find a zipfile called "wad project.zip"

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posted 05-22-2001 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mulf   Click Here to Email Mulf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Driber, you've received an e-mail from me with images of the objects of the city.wad (and the DOG from newcity). It hope you received it alright.

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posted 05-23-2001 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mulf   Click Here to Email Mulf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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posted 05-23-2001 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what does that mean?

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posted 05-23-2001 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mulf   Click Here to Email Mulf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It means: pushing the thread back on top so that others may join in.

*bump*

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posted 05-23-2001 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh cool, I was wondering about that B4!

*bump*

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!!! new: preview of the OBJECT ARCHIVE !!!

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posted 05-23-2001 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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posted 05-23-2001 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

hehehheeheheh, ok, I'll quit it

???anyone else want to join the project????

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posted 05-24-2001 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elpasodude   Click Here to Email Elpasodude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*BUMP*

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posted 05-26-2001 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People, we only have a couple of team members for this project, doesn't anyone want to join?

If you don't want the commitment or the hard work, we're happy if you could help out with just one wad!

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posted 05-30-2001 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

any people here want to take up the challenge?

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posted 05-30-2001 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mulf   Click Here to Email Mulf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, no new volunteer, it's only me announcing that karnak is about to be finished. I'll send it to you this weekend. And my next task would be...?

NB. That's not to say that I'm going to do all the work myself, most definitely not. Come on people, sign up for a wad or two!

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posted 06-02-2001 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nice going Mulf, good job!

ok people, we're almost done with the wads that came with the LE, so we're proceding to the new wads and then the unofficial wads

any volunteers????

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posted 06-22-2001 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mulf   Click Here to Email Mulf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just telling you that I've got all the pictures from the catacomb wad...progressing...oh, and by the way...*bump*

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