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Elpasodude
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posted 05-23-2001 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elpasodude   Click Here to Email Elpasodude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did u know that "Seth" is the greek rendering of Seutekh? NOt like anybody cares...

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Seth
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posted 05-23-2001 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seth   Click Here to Email Seth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh WOW that's so cool! I didn't know that Egyptains used renderings of Greek names!!! Thanx, Elapsodude! You are so cool!

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posted 05-23-2001 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seth   Click Here to Email Seth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What, no one else likes that consept?? Come on, people!!!!

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posted 05-23-2001 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tommy tomb raider   Click Here to Email tommy tomb raider     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is really interesting. I knew that the greeks and romans shared deities, hardly even bothering to alter the name most of the time. But I wasn't aware that the greeks "swiped" (for lack of a better term) their deities from anyone else.
Seth. FYI, Egyption civilation was in existance for more than 1000 years before the Aegeanic, Hellenic and Hellenistic civilizations developed. So you're safe, you're namesake is actually and originally an egyptian.

I have absolutely no clue why I know this, must be a flash back from an earlier life or something!

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posted 05-23-2001 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry, not a master in English yet....what does "greek rendering of Seutekh" mean?

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posted 05-23-2001 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MichaelB   Click Here to Email MichaelB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
more or less... it means the Egyptian version of the name. Like Mikhail (pardon my spelling if not correct) and Michael... Russian and English versions of the same name; don't ask me which came first.

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posted 05-23-2001 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elpasodude   Click Here to Email Elpasodude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I read up on alot of egyptian stuff.

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posted 12-18-2001 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRoosevelt_26   Click Here to Email TRoosevelt_26     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, isn't it? "Seth" was known to the Egyptians as Sutekh, Set, Setesh, Setekh (in one of his earlier manifestations), and (vaguely) as Tuti, and the Greeks just added an "h" to the end of Set (following the conventions of their grammar to give him the name most know him by today.

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posted 12-18-2001 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tom992     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, thats true. Many Egyptian-originating gods are more commonly known in Greek due to the legibility of Greek scripts has been known for longer than how to read hieroglyphs. For example, Sobek and Soker are Egyptian gods written with an 'O' deriving from the Greek.

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KrisGR
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posted 12-18-2001 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KrisGR   Click Here to Email KrisGR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone calls upon a Greek?Present.You know when Egyptians were doing business with Greeks they spoke Greek.The Greeks didn't share deities with the Egyptians..At least not in general.Maybe some calling upon their Gods and from them to our Gods just for the custom.When in Rome do as the Romans do.Our alphabet is the one that helped other nations developed their languages.I hope you are not suggesting that Greeks stole some names.And what that topic has to do with TRLE?and don't tell me because Seth is a God and was in TRLR.I have seen posts getting out of here for less.

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posted 12-18-2001 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRoosevelt_26   Click Here to Email TRoosevelt_26     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, KrisGR, the Greeks did not give the rest of the world (or even much of it at all) a starting-point for their alphabets. Not only did the Egyptians have an alpha-symbolic language long before the Greeks were conceived, the Greeks merely adopted the alphabet of the Phoenicians - who were also the first sailors. Greek culture was no culture at all. Merely the result of a union of many cultures under one flag (and not a very strong union, either, being divided into warring provinces), Greece fell because of her diversity, as did Rome years later. This is why there have been found references to Egyptian gods in Greek writings - in fact, many wandering Greeks did adopt Egyptian gods (you recall the famous altar to the Unknown God in Athens...).

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posted 12-18-2001 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRoosevelt_26   Click Here to Email TRoosevelt_26     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And if it's a post violating the T of U, then why did you reply? It has to do with the TRLE, all right. I have a reference library concerning ancient Egypt alone that is worth hundreds of dollars, and let me tell you I use it every day when I'm working on a level. A little background is sometimes helpful unless you really want a shallow level (many do, though, apparently).

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posted 12-18-2001 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KrisGR   Click Here to Email KrisGR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be careful of your language when you are referring to my nation.Of course we gave it.And i never suggested that Greeks were before Egyptians.We have a great nation.Democracy,philosophy all from Greece.We were a great empire and Great Alexander concurred the world.Your talking when your nation produced only barbarians and i am referring to your nation because you are insulting mine.I think the mods should do something with you.

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posted 12-18-2001 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tom992     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I completely agree with TRoosevelt_26, Athens is a cool city tho, went there about a month ago with school.

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posted 12-18-2001 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KrisGR   Click Here to Email KrisGR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your cyclopedia sucks.Oh that's a Greek word.And all the terms that doctors use are Greek words.

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posted 12-18-2001 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd move this to the OT forum, but if this keeps up, it will get closed eventually

bare in mind that one isn't able to convince another person of one's point of view if that other person is really persistant (and vice versa), so I'll save us all a lot of grief and close this one now, before it gets out of hand

if people feel a need to discuss this further, please e-mail each other and keep this off the forum...tnx you

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