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Elpasodude
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posted 05-30-2001 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elpasodude   Click Here to Email Elpasodude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anybody who wants to do it, I have given up.
If u do though, don't you dare neglect atmospheric issues! She's gotta have a space suit or in a place surrounded by a big glass oxygen bubble (like in "Total Recal"). Anyway, I just thought that I'd let y'all know that there's a good idea out there that nobody's done yet...

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Elpasodude
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posted 05-31-2001 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elpasodude   Click Here to Email Elpasodude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump

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Driber_IF
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posted 06-02-2001 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you wuss!

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Elpasodude
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posted 06-02-2001 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elpasodude   Click Here to Email Elpasodude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL.
I don't think that the level editor is capable of doing the bubble thing. Why don't you do it?

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Driber_IF
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posted 06-02-2001 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, I did have a plan with that bubble, but not for mars
where I'm gonna use it for, will remain a secret, until I release the level

can you send me your mars project though?
then I can check out where you got stuck on the bubble!

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Elpasodude
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posted 06-02-2001 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elpasodude   Click Here to Email Elpasodude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check your Email...

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psiko
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posted 06-03-2001 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for psiko   Click Here to Email psiko     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can edit lara's meshes with a CAD program as I did, but there are problems and I can tell you all the tips you need.
Or change the orizont and the sky graphic imitating a protection structure. Do you want me to try it for you?

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blacknile
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posted 06-03-2001 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blacknile   Click Here to Email blacknile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you let me know what problems you have had with editing the meshes. I am planning on rebuilding the models in rhino and making them a bit more detailed so i can make some cool pics. What program could you recommend for texturing the meshes? I won't be using them in the game so they don't need to be part of a wad file. I will probably make the textures myself. I own Rhino, 3d studio max, poser4, bryce4 and a few other smaller 3d apps, so if you could give me a hint on how to texture objects using any of these apps. I can edit the meshes no probs but i haven't worked out how to texture them. Your help would be appreciated.

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psiko
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posted 06-04-2001 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for psiko   Click Here to Email psiko     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I answered to you in your post.

The problem is not the simple editing.
The problem happens when you try to edit only LARA's meshes. Cause differently from the previous game (tr3) there is a new obscure object: LARA's SKIN!!!! If you import for example a new bust for Lara like I did, this object in the game STARTS TO DRAW POLYGONS EVERY WHERE!.... The first time I imported in the game her new legs I WAS REALLY FRIGHTNED!.... she had BIG BALLONS instead of the legs I imported... so I had to work VERY hard to understand how to solve the problem.
Lara skin and Lara skin joints are two objects which link different parts of Lara's body: for example a knee or the (part under the head - I don't know the name in English).
If you change the meshes of the bust or a leg, this joints does not recognize anymore what to link, so they go crazy.

You simply have to move them in order your meshes work in the game (I am talking only about LARA'S MESHES).... but you CANNOT do with TRWest, couse it gives you error message when saving. I did use a very simple and "logical" method which every one can use.... so I deleted them. Now my new Lara works PERFECTLY with her new body. You can make with her every moves, and she works perfectly. NO WRONG polygons.

But I want to keep this method for myself, at least until my level is out (I hope 2 or 3 days, there are problems while uploading): then I can tell you everything.

Only a warning: be careful when I will publish this method, cause editing the new Lara can make the entire game crashes to windows, so you have to find by yourself the limits. My level started to crash, but the difference from a working well version was of ONLY 4 POLYGONS! So I had suddenly to stop modifying my WAD.

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Elpasodude
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posted 06-04-2001 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elpasodude   Click Here to Email Elpasodude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Um... what the heck is a "cad editing" program?

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