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posted 07-04-2001 06:42 AM               

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I imported ceiling trapdoor from city.wad(revised) to tut1.wad, Then I put it in my level(without triggers) and converted it to *.tr4. In the game, Lara could pass through it(maybe because I didn't put a trigger), and when I jumped and grabed the trapdoor to open it, the game crashes.
Am I doing something wrong, or is it TRWest?

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posted 07-04-2001 06:59 AM               

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tut1 probably doesn't have the animations required for opening the trapdoor, you probably have to make a new wad based on the (revised) city or newcity wads if you absolutely want to use that trapdoor. Or else, replace the Lara objects in your wad with those from city or newcity.

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posted 07-04-2001 07:01 AM               

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Oh, I forgot:

Rather than experimenting with the tut1 wad, shouldn't you be working on the TR3 Antarctica outfit?

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posted 07-04-2001 07:05 AM               

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Take it easy!
I didn't find yet the cause of my problems with the outfit. And I have to work to on a wad for my first level.

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posted 07-04-2001 09:15 AM               

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you must place a ceiling door and place the ceiling trapdoor in that ceiling door.
i ''had'' the same problem.
It should be working fine now.

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posted 07-04-2001 10:07 AM               

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What?!
I need to put in the same place two different doors?
I'm confused.

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posted 07-04-2001 11:20 AM               

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No, Jeffrey has probably given a pointer towards a much easier solution for your problem.

The point is that if you place the CEILING_TRAPDOOR in your project, it has to be placed on the ceiling of the room below and not on the floor of the room above. Also, it has to be exactly level with the ceiling.

I completely forgot about it, but I had this problem myself a while ago. I put the ceiling trapdoor in my level, then later I made some changes to the floor that caused the trapdoor to go one click up (no longer level with the ceiling), and that in turn caused the game to crash when I approached the trapdoor.

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posted 07-04-2001 01:36 PM               

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What? At the same height of the ceiling?

The game does't crash whent I aproach the trapdoor, it's when I try to open it.

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posted 07-05-2001 09:21 AM               

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Well, I tryed that thing of the same height of the ceiling, and Lara can still pass through the ceiling trapdoor, and the game still crashes. Any sugestions?
Now I'm having problems with floor trapdoor too. Lara can pass through it, and she doesn't even try to open it.

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posted 07-05-2001 10:03 AM               

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Please help me! I'm getting mad with this!

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posted 07-05-2001 10:59 AM               

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Lara:''my animations are wrong.
please rip me from an other wad''

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posted 07-06-2001 02:19 AM               

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I've been trying somethings with the city wad, and I realised that the problem isn't in the animations or in TRWest, the problem is me, I'm doing all this wrong. I've been examinating the city.prj and noticed that the floor trapdoor is in the room bellow of the one from where it's going to be opened, so I think that's the problem, because I put it in the same room from where it would be opened. Am I right, or wrong again?

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posted 07-06-2001 02:56 AM               

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I figured this out to night. The trap door must not be in the room where it is being triggered. It must be on the floor in the room above. I believe the same to be true about it being on the roof under the room where it is to be triggered, at least this worked for me.

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posted 07-06-2001 06:27 AM               

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Netslider, if you don't trigger the CEILING_TRAPDOOR (as it isn't suppose to be triggered), it doesn't matter where you place it

On the floor of the top room or on the ceiling of the bottom room, it works both ways

check your e-mail, I've sended you a project that shows how it's done

however, the point jeffrey, Mulf and Pwhirl were onto DOES count for the TRAPDOOR1, that one has to be placed on the ceiling of the bottom room

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posted 07-06-2001 11:34 AM               

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Now, about the floor trapdoor from the Library wad, I can get Lara to open it, but when she finishes, the game crashes.
Hey, thanks for the project!

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posted 07-06-2001 12:09 PM               

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if the project is ok. you'll get the picture.

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posted 07-07-2001 03:04 AM               

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did you had any dependancy errors with TRwest when creating your wad?

that's why my game crashed at the end of the level, so I had to rebuild the entire wad again, then it was fixed

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posted 07-07-2001 08:01 AM               

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Yes, with the Eye of Horus, Door type 2, and the jeep(the one that shows at the end of the Tuturial level).

But now, how about the floor trapdoor from the Library wad?

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posted 07-08-2001 09:11 AM               

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well, FLOOR_TRAPDOOR1 from the library wad doesn't have an animation dependancy, so as far as I know, you can savely add or remove that objects, so the problem must be somewhere else

try loading your project, then load the objects of the original wad you started with and (delete any triggers for objects not found), output to a room wad, build the tr4 file and see if the game still crashes

if it's not crashing, you should rebuild your custom wad again and be carefull not to run into any dependancy errors and try to save the wad anyway, that will make your wad corrupt

good luck!

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posted 07-08-2001 09:21 AM               

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Still crashes.
I must say that I'm not using any kind of triggers, in the level I just put Lara, and floor_trapdoor1 in a single room.
What do I need to do?

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posted 07-08-2001 10:21 AM               

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you need to read the manuel.
sorry but you have to do this first.

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posted 07-08-2001 10:33 AM               

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What page?
I didn't find anything.

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posted 07-09-2001 06:16 AM               

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Hey! Anyone there?
Please help me. Just give me the Lost Library project so I can examine it and understand how to use the floor trapdoor.
My e-mail:
netslider25@hotmail.com

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posted 07-09-2001 08:05 AM               

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go to the end and go a little back until you reach the object stuff read this carefully.

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posted 07-10-2001 02:03 PM               

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OK.
But, can anyone send me the project file or tell me where can I get it without downloading the wads from EIDOS ftp?

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