posted 08-09-2001 01:38 PM               

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posted 08-09-2001 02:00 PM            

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posted 08-09-2001 06:07 PM               

Could you please email a copy of the .prj file which you have created with the 16:9 effect working?

Thank you in advance.

posted 08-10-2001 05:03 AM               

Nothing is happening when I move Lara over any of the fliptrigger 45 areas in your .prj file.

Sequence of events:

1) I activate Von Croy
2) He runs off towards the 1st golden skull.
3) I run over fliptrigger 45 (then fliptrigger 30).
4) 16:9 effect does not occur (as in original game).

I am using the angkor.wad (revised) and have output .tom file etc and converted using level convertor. I have even replaced all the audio files in the TRLE directory with the audio files from TR4 CD.

Any ideas why it's working on your machine and not mine?

[This message has been edited by Wee Bald Man (edited 08-10-2001).]

posted 08-11-2001 05:30 AM               

quote:

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Originally posted by Brad Casali:
I tried Flipeffect 45, nothing happened.

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I don't think so, seven

tried is myself (with the original angkor level though, but I can't see any difference in "your" project and the original one), but nothing happened here eighter

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posted 08-11-2001 07:15 AM            

I tested 0-40 lastnight, two of them removed laras tousers and drew the old outfit shorts, I found one that stops you from firing too, spacebar does nothing

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posted 08-11-2001 07:24 AM            

its flipeffect 12

wont let you even draw your pistols dont know bout other weapons, think you mean we should make a list of each one that may have some value - I agree

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posted 08-11-2001 07:34 AM            

14/15 remove holsters and draw the gun but when you fire, she uses her hands too

11 = big crashing sound, shaking of the screen

9 or 10 make this weird beatle moving noise

I ultimately started this in the hope to find a timer, I notice angkor race has a flipeffect of 28 at the start, it seems to do nothing

posted 08-11-2001 07:45 AM            

I just build a trigger, click on the object field select flipeffects and type in the number

that is weird, on mine going on the square with pistols drawn, she just holds them once off returns to normal

gone up to 50 now and have found nothing really, but if different wads or script settings objects - actions affect them
could be here alday

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posted 08-11-2001 08:04 AM               

For the benefit of those who are still wondering what people are talking about, don't use the zip file which was passed around recently('Flipeffect45'). It doesn't work.

Just do what Tension says and create a new flipeffect trigger (in a WAD that you know is functioning correctly).

posted 08-11-2001 09:10 AM            

anyone want to go through the entire lot?
or ask core for a better manual that covers this stuff more useful than another editor and more likely

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posted 08-11-2001 09:32 AM            

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posted 08-11-2001 01:45 PM               

A WAD contains more then meshes and textures. It has several data linked to the objects, such how to put a multimesh object together and much more. Several important modifications of an object must be stored in the WAD too. I personally think that code bits are stored in WAD too.

Don't think that by "hardcoded" is always ment in the exe file. A great example of this is Vehicale_Extra, although in the same gameslot for the bike and the jeep, the Vehicale_Extra of KV5 and City or totally different. So we can conclude that the object contains new information to make lara sit.

If you import export and object (TRwest) you get more then just a new mesh and textures.

I am certain that the object LARA (M1) is DIFFERENT from WAD to WAD, certainly in WADS used in cutscenes.

I have tested this.
I have taken a random WAD and noted its size. Using TRwest I imported Lara from StreetBazar which contains a cutscene, saved the WAD and compaired the size. An increase of 50 kB!!! So the animations for the cutscenes are stored allong the obects used in the cutscene.

Therefore a cutscene made by:

example 1:

The flippeffect 45 makes the exe file to look for object M39 (whatever it is Von Croy or the Queen Mum). Each different timer makes the exe file to load up a new graphic setting how to compose the object and how to move it. This data is stored in additional data of M39 in your WAD. Using AI follow and triggers to load new graphics you get your cutscenes and the movement of M39.

example 2

The cutscene of StreetBazar and others must work in the same way. They are triggered by a specific flippect along with camera's (the 16 different code bits for the camera makes it clear that they are used for more then just flybies). The specific one of StreetBazar accesses the Lara and the unlucky
bloke.

If we want to make a custom cutscene we need a way to access and modify the additionnal data stored with the objects.