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Data
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posted 09-28-2001 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Data   Click Here to Email Data     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For anybody that is interested click on link below: http://www.3drad.com/

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posted 09-28-2001 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aktrekker   Click Here to Email aktrekker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe I've checked this out before, and decided it wasn't up to par for a serious commercial game. In order to make it usable by non-programmers, they would have to have alot of stuff already programmed for you, like AI and animation. This will limit your options.
If you look at the system requirements, it lists 75MHz CPU! What kind of game do you expect to run on a machine that slow?
They also REQUIRE DirectX8, which is KNOWN to cause problems with existing games.

It is a great idea, but I don't think they have quite achieved it yet. I do hope they keep working on it, maybe someday...

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posted 09-28-2001 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zaher0001   Click Here to Email zaher0001     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finally .......a complete programe to create
your OWWWWN game.
i saw the games which were created using it..THE GAMES ARE FANTASTIC
I was learning 3d studio to create animating
enemies for TR but now FOR 3D RAD HEHEHEHEHE
NO need for good skills in programming or
using C++ ...hahahaha... YOU need only TO BE A GOOD USER OF 3D STUDIO MAX TO CREATE OBJECTS AND ANIMATINGS

in TRLE you can only create levels with limited options.......i hate that
i will learn 3d studio max more and more and
maybe someday i will create my own game
(I WILL DESIGN TOMB RAIDER GAME)hehehehehehehehe
thank you data for this link

ZAHER ABBAS

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posted 09-28-2001 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Data   Click Here to Email Data     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thankyou Mr Zaher, I believe there are a lot of very talented people in this forum and they are going to be our future games designers. This is why I posted the link, however, I do agree that the free version is a little limited Mr Aktrekker, but it will certainly help those who wish to make a mark one day, perhaps as head programmer for Core Design.....

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Raider of Tombs
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posted 09-28-2001 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raider of Tombs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As good as the software is, it can only let you design something that is a variation of what somebody has already done. While it is fun to use those programs, I would rather slog my way through C++ to make my very own, and have no limits.

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posted 09-28-2001 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raider of Tombs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After a second look at those screenshots, I think I change my mind. It looks like there is a lot of sophistication there!

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posted 09-28-2001 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trlestuff   Click Here to Email trlestuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that is COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can you get a free trial

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Conan the Barbarian
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posted 09-28-2001 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Conan the Barbarian   Click Here to Email Conan the Barbarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See where it says -

DOWNLOAD the freeware version.
Know more about latest 3D Rad version


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Kiopo
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posted 09-29-2001 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kiopo   Click Here to Email Kiopo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hold ya horses, 3d rad is not that good. The engine is one of the worst and you can't create any half decent games with it. If you want something good go to http://www.3dgamestudio.com

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posted 09-29-2001 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kiopo   Click Here to Email Kiopo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zaher0001:
Finally .......a complete programe to create
your OWWWWN game.
i saw the games which were created using it..THE GAMES ARE FANTASTIC
I was learning 3d studio to create animating
enemies for TR but now FOR 3D RAD HEHEHEHEHE
NO need for good skills in programming or
using C++ ...hahahaha... YOU need only TO BE A GOOD USER OF 3D STUDIO MAX TO CREATE OBJECTS AND ANIMATINGS

in TRLE you can only create levels with limited options.......i hate that
i will learn 3d studio max more and more and
maybe someday i will create my own game
(I WILL DESIGN TOMB RAIDER GAME)hehehehehehehehe
thank you data for this link

ZAHER ABBAS


Mmm, look at it in context. There are over 100,000 owners of 3d rad full version, and only a handful of games on the preview page, doesn't that tell you something?? Plus the really good ones will have taken a lot of people alot of time to do them. Sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but those games on the preview page are actually programmed in a variant of basic, check out the brain editor of the software, so it would be easier just learning c++, the results would be better.

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posted 09-29-2001 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Data   Click Here to Email Data     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thankyou for your opinion Mr Kiopo, however, the reason for posting this is quite clear.

I believe that any 3D creation application will help those who are starting out in the 3D design world. Perhaps you are already past that stage, if so congratulations.
I would therefore suggest we let those who are only just starting, to gain the benefit of the doubt.

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posted 09-29-2001 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Data   Click Here to Email Data     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, thank you for the link. I have taken a look and believe it would also be a useful tool.

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Kiopo
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posted 09-29-2001 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kiopo   Click Here to Email Kiopo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Data, I didn't mean to put anyone off, I was just trying to make sure people didn't get too dissapointed when (or if perhaps) they realise they won't be able to create the next tomb raider in a week with it!! I agree, lots of people on these forums will move into game development, I hope to be one of them, but I just think perhaps learning a programming language might give them a better start. But, by all means check it out, to each there own as they say...

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posted 09-29-2001 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Data   Click Here to Email Data     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes indeed Mr Kiopo, I concur with your reply.

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posted 09-29-2001 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ImmortalX   Click Here to Email ImmortalX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.genesis3d.com/~rfactory/

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posted 09-29-2001 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Flash   Click Here to Email Flash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As soon as I finish my project I'll give it a try. I intend to be a game creator.

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posted 09-29-2001 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zaher0001   Click Here to Email zaher0001     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kiopo:
I didn't mean to put anyone off, I was just trying to make sure people didn't get too dissapointed when (or if perhaps) they realise they won't be able to create the next tomb raider in a week with it!! I agree, lots of people on these forums will move into game development, I hope to be one of them, but I just think perhaps learning a programming language might give them a better start. But, by all means check it out, to each there own as they say...

Hi KIOPO:
i donot mean that i will design a game in one week or one month.
but i think that the first step is to have the PROPER TOOL ....then learning and designing.
and let me tell you that c++ is too hard ...i know a lot of people learned programming language
but they cant make thier complete game
i think that you can only make a simple 2D game but 3D game is IMPOSSIBLE
sorry for that but it is the truth
maybe when your age will be 25 you can create the best 3D Game(C++ FOR PROFESSIONALS ONLY) anyone can say I will create a very fantastic 3D game using C++)
(I will learning c++ to be a good programmer...)
(I will create,I will design,I will...I will.........)
but applying is not as saying

i hope that KIOPO

ZAHER ABBAS


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Kiopo
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posted 09-29-2001 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kiopo   Click Here to Email Kiopo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats true, you can only really make a good 2d game, I have no argument with that. Until you have a good team programming good 3d games takes a lot of time and most of the time money, even that 3d RAD tool costs a bit. Clearly I'm not the end say on things, but I was just giving my opinion, if you think 3d RAD is the best then don't listen to me, in the end its up to you how you learn to make games.

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posted 09-29-2001 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zaher0001   Click Here to Email zaher0001     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Kiopo:
-i will try it
-and you can learn the basics of programming language, you will not lose anything.

WE ARE FRIENDS KIOPO
your friend ZAHER ABBAS

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