posted 12-08-2001 09:41 AM               

I don't want to be a rude people, but i think that this method is a lie, I know how the animation are stored in a WAD, and i am telling you (are you hearing people?), each frame animation info IS NOT A DIFERENT MESH MODEL THAT YOU CAN IMPORT/EXPORT TO DXF, YOU CAN'T IMPORT A NEWER DXF FOR CHANGE THE ANIMATION, because that is not the way how the animation is stored.

Think about it you people, why you think that Lara models is built using severals pieces?, left arm, righ arm, hands, legs, foots, head, torso etc, that's is because later any individual piece is animated at realtime for the engine.

This mean than in a WAD file THERE ARE NOT any PRE-RENDER 3d pictures frames for Lara walking, runing, etc, all animations are generated realtime in game!!!.

each frame consists of a bounding box, the offset of the root mesh, and rotation
angles for all the meshes with respect to their parent meshes. The root
mesh is also rotated, but relative to the object's overall coordinates. All
rotations are performed around the meshes' origins, and are in order Y, X,
Z (yaw, pitch, roll). The reason for the root mesh's displacement is
because entities traveling on solid surfaces are likely tracked by having
their locations be at ground level, and Lara's hips, for example, are well
above the ground. Finally, some of the angles are not specified explicitly,
when they are not, they are zero.

Like you can see, the animation is just the info that teach to the engine how to move,rotate (x,y,z) (in game) each piece in the movable, so each frame can't be replaced "importing" and DXF model, ha ha ha ha,ha, ha, ha...that was a funy lie!!!

posted 12-08-2001 10:35 AM               

Signed--
The Sage Of Time

posted 12-08-2001 11:58 AM               

He told me he had the zipline working, but he didn't know what the zipline was.

And he told a wekk ago he was going to release it on monday at 7.30 pm, so: where is it?

posted 12-08-2001 12:58 PM               

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Originally posted by Stevo8710:
So how can we edit animations? Is it not possible now? That's really depressing.

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Currently there is a way.

1.- get a TR4 with the objects that you want to anim.

2.- use michiel's flooredit program for convert the TR4 file to TR3 file format.

3.- Use trviewer for open the TR3 file, you can see the animation for all tr4 objects included in this level. export the movable to 3ds file format. the 3ds will include the object full textured, meshes and animations info, (all animations for the movable)

4.- Use 3d stuido max (i don;t known which version), open the 3ds file and edit the Tr4 animations for the object. save back the 3ds file.

5. Use TRviewer, open the tr3 file and import back the 3ds file over the object, save the tr3 file.

6. use TR2wad to convert back the tr3 to WAD file format.

This should work.

Turbo Pascal

posted 12-08-2001 01:12 PM               

CU TÜmmler

posted 12-09-2001 02:10 AM               

I also advise you to handle this matter with care, because if you are giving out false information, you are violating the Terms Of Use:

"You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this Forum to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law"

posted 12-09-2001 03:01 AM               

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Originally posted by jeffrey van oort:
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Anyway, What If I refuse to send you the program?
I will send you a screenshot.
But I'm not sure or I'll send you the program.
After all, It is my program.

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posted 12-09-2001 03:33 AM               

I think it was just perpetuated by our wishfull thinking, Hopefully some one will make a program that works one day.

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Toy Story on Hold

Currently Working On; The Dragon Ball TR Saga

posted 12-09-2001 06:16 AM               

I assure I believe you, but I need to see this program too.

I say all of this here because if someone tried to build his complete new lara with STRPIX and tried to import the crowbar and tourch anim with trwest, the wad was not usefull anymore. You sent me a working wad, even if only with demos, so there is SURELY something new you did.

Then, I had all those switches and their right animations, so I believe you. But I asked you if I could be your beta-tester for it and in the middle I could prepare some custom objects for you, so we share something until it is ready: I promised even to not use it in my levels until you release it for all... I only asked to be a beta-tester so I could even help you to make it easier to work for us....

...and I don't understand why you don't want this or accept this promise...

then, I am available to host pictures for you in my web space about your new animation tool, if you send them to me

posted 12-09-2001 12:16 PM               

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Originally posted by Driber_IF:
"You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this Forum to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law"

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Isn't it a little harsh to quote the TOS to him, Driber? I mean whats the big deal about this animation editor anyway? Every post is ruined with talk of it...its so boring.

CHANGE THE SUBJECT

posted 12-09-2001 02:40 PM               

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Originally posted by moose562:
Isn't it a little harsh to quote the TOS to him, Driber? I mean whats the big deal about this animation editor anyway? Every post is ruined with talk of it...its so boring.

[b]CHANGE THE SUBJECT

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