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Topic: font.pc editor
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TRWad Member Posts: 47 From:Rotterdam Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 07:34 AM
Didn't know if there was one, so I created one. It took 10 minutes to do it! http://trwad.tripod.com/Download/FontEdit.zip IP: Logged |
qbg Member Posts: 267 From:Newtown, Powys, Wales Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 08:13 AM
Tripod seem to suck.  IP: Logged |
Wee Bald Man Member Posts: 535 From:Simple Mud Hut (Near Twisted Gnarltree), The Swamp, Dagobah, Distant Sluis Sector of the Outer Rim Territories Registered: May 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 09:25 AM
TRwad, you never cease to amaze me. Well I guess KingSpyder owes you a bottle of champagne.  WBM ------------------
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Wee Bald Man Member Posts: 535 From:Simple Mud Hut (Near Twisted Gnarltree), The Swamp, Dagobah, Distant Sluis Sector of the Outer Rim Territories Registered: May 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 10:09 AM
Hi TRWad,I've been testing your new FontEdit program and I can't get it to work. Here's what I did as a test: First of all I replaced the letter 'A' with an 'X' of exactly the same size and position. In the second test I removed the letter 'A' completely by painting over it in the same background colour (black). In both tests, nothing was affected in the game - the original letter 'A' appeared both times. The sequence I'm doing: 1) Open FontEdit / Open Font.pc in C:\Program Files\Core Design\trle\graphics\wads folder. 2) FontEdit confirms Font Loaded. 3) I save TGA. Edit TGA in PhotoShop. Save in same format to desktop. 4) In FontEdit I Load TGA on desktop. It confirms TGA Loaded. 5) I click Save Font. I check that Font.pc file in C:\Program Files\Core Design\trle\graphics\wads folder has been updated (by looking at its modified date). 6) I run Tomb4.exe. No change. I have recompiled (loaded level - output wad - converted) but it still has no effect. Let me know if I'm doing something wrong. Thanks.  WBM
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TRWad Member Posts: 47 From:Rotterdam Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 10:28 AM
I fixed a bug. The transperant background didn't work http://trwad.tripod.com/Download/FontEdit.zip But remeber: I used the W to test it, but there are 2 of them. Make sure you edit the right one. IP: Logged |
Wee Bald Man Member Posts: 535 From:Simple Mud Hut (Near Twisted Gnarltree), The Swamp, Dagobah, Distant Sluis Sector of the Outer Rim Territories Registered: May 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 11:06 AM
Hi TRWad,I downloaded the updated version with the transparent background fix and did the following 2 tests: 1) Completely removed ALL letters. The TGA file is completely black. Loaded the TGA into FontEdit and Font Saved it to Font.pc location. 2) Repeated above but made TGA file completely white. In both tests, all characters are still present in-game. WBM
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TRWad Member Posts: 47 From:Rotterdam Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 11:19 AM
Note that it only effects the levels you rebuild (with Tom2pc.exe). It worked for me (I rebuilded the title screen)IP: Logged |
Wee Bald Man Member Posts: 535 From:Simple Mud Hut (Near Twisted Gnarltree), The Swamp, Dagobah, Distant Sluis Sector of the Outer Rim Territories Registered: May 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 12:03 PM
Rebuilding the title screen fixed it!Thank you TRWad!  Give yourself a slap on the back.  [WBM walks off into the sunset with FontEdit under his arm whistling happily].. KingSpyder, make that two bottles.  IP: Logged |
GokuZ Member Posts: 251 From:UK Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 01:57 PM
I cant download the updated version  ------------------ Currently Working On; The Dragon Ball TR Saga Often in the Chatbox / AOL Instant Messenger Name is : GoTenchiZ , MSN ; Gokuz99@hotmail.com IP: Logged |
Wee Bald Man Member Posts: 535 From:Simple Mud Hut (Near Twisted Gnarltree), The Swamp, Dagobah, Distant Sluis Sector of the Outer Rim Territories Registered: May 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 02:14 PM
Hi GokuZ,Check your mail.  WBM IP: Logged |
qbg Member Posts: 267 From:Newtown, Powys, Wales Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 02:58 PM
I can't download. How did the rest of you get hold of it?IP: Logged |
GokuZ Member Posts: 251 From:UK Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 03:58 PM
TRWAD YOU ROCK !!!!! MERRY X-MAS ------------------ Currently Working On; The Dragon Ball TR Saga Often in the Chatbox / AOL Instant Messenger Name is : GoTenchiZ , MSN ; Gokuz99@hotmail.com IP: Logged |
trlestuff Member Posts: 535 From:oregon Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 05:22 PM
... i got it but how do i do it? i dont get it... i open the font.pc... what do i do next??????????????????????????????????????------------------ Enter Tomb Raider Level Editor Stuff
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Wee Bald Man Member Posts: 535 From:Simple Mud Hut (Near Twisted Gnarltree), The Swamp, Dagobah, Distant Sluis Sector of the Outer Rim Territories Registered: May 2001
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posted 12-23-2001 06:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by qbg: I can't download. How did the rest of you get hold of it?
I use GetRight to help with downloads: www.getright.com In the meantime, I've emailed FontEdit to you.  WBM IP: Logged |
aktrekker Member Posts: 868 From:WA, USA Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 12-24-2001 02:57 AM
WBM, I think his question is how to use it. Am I right that this program basically converts between raw and TGA formats?
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jeffrey van oort Member Posts: 830 From:Monkey Island Registered: Jun 2001
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posted 12-24-2001 03:28 AM
The only thing I see in the TGA. are a lot of numbers and marks. What am I doing wrong or is this supposed to be like this. Anyhow I don't understand the use of this program. ------------------ Lost Tombraider treasures. IP: Logged |
aktrekker Member Posts: 868 From:WA, USA Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 12-24-2001 05:21 AM
jeffrey, notice the name of the file...font.pc. The file contains the font that the game uses for displaying text. So that is what you see, a font.
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jeffrey van oort Member Posts: 830 From:Monkey Island Registered: Jun 2001
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posted 12-24-2001 05:36 AM
Aha, so you can change the way of how the numbers and marks are displayed. A other type of numbers and stuff. I understand it now. Thank you.------------------ Lost Tombraider treasures. IP: Logged |
Wee Bald Man Member Posts: 535 From:Simple Mud Hut (Near Twisted Gnarltree), The Swamp, Dagobah, Distant Sluis Sector of the Outer Rim Territories Registered: May 2001
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posted 12-24-2001 05:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by aktrekker: Am I right that this program basically converts between raw and TGA formats?
Aktrekker: You'll have to ask TRWad for the full details. When KingSpyder, GokuZ and I previously tried to convert the font.pc file to RAW using PhotoShop, we couldn't produce a clean image. FontEdit produces a workable TGA (no distortion or artefacts in the image). trlestuff and jeffrey: 1) Select the letter you want to change using a rectangle marquee. The selection area has to be exactly the same size as the character (don't select beyond the outer limits of the shape of the character). For example, the original TR capital B with correct marquee selection: 2) Replace it with the new font of the same type. For example, the new capital B (Verdana font) occupying the same space as the old TR capital B:
3) Using FontEdit convert the TGA back to Font.pc format.
4) Rebuild title.wad. Run game - voila. This is what the new (Verdana) capital B looks like in-game (on the title screen): WBM
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qbg Member Posts: 267 From:Newtown, Powys, Wales Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-24-2001 10:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Wee Bald ManI've emailed FontEdit to you.
Thanks, WBM. I appreciate it. You are the first person to e-mail me.  IP: Logged |
scatydude Member Posts: 52 From:Derby, Derbyshire, England Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 12-24-2001 11:28 AM
could somebody please send me the updated version, i can't download it thanks scatydude------------------ Sorry sir, My brother ate my homework IP: Logged |
TRWad Member Posts: 47 From:Rotterdam Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-24-2001 11:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by aktrekker: WBM, I think his question is how to use it. Am I right that this program basically converts between raw and TGA formats?
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qbg Member Posts: 267 From:Newtown, Powys, Wales Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-24-2001 12:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by scatydude: could somebody please send me the updated version, i can't download it thanks scatydude
Just sent you one.
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Wee Bald Man Member Posts: 535 From:Simple Mud Hut (Near Twisted Gnarltree), The Swamp, Dagobah, Distant Sluis Sector of the Outer Rim Territories Registered: May 2001
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posted 12-24-2001 01:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by qbg: Thanks, WBM. I appreciate it. You are the first person to e-mail me. 
You're welcome. You're the first person that I've been the first person to email.  IP: Logged |
qbg Member Posts: 267 From:Newtown, Powys, Wales Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-24-2001 02:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Wee Bald Man: You're welcome. You're the first person that I've been the first person to email. 
oooo, that's confusing , but I understand it.  [This message has been edited by qbg (edited 12-24-2001).] IP: Logged |
KingSpyder Member Posts: 124 From: Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 12-24-2001 10:43 PM
Okay, let me get this straight. Do you have to rebuild the title level only or every level for the new fonts to take?Oh, and two bottles of champagne coming up!  ------------------ KingSpyder KingSpyder@thefreesite.com
KingSpyder's World The Doctor Who Transcripts Project The Original Tomb Raider Conversion Project The Dark! Your Source For Video Tape Labels! [This message has been edited by KingSpyder (edited 12-24-2001).] IP: Logged |
aktrekker Member Posts: 868 From:WA, USA Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 12-25-2001 01:40 AM
I didn't quite catch TRWADs reply.
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GokuZ Member Posts: 251 From:UK Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 12-25-2001 01:00 PM
If only I could shove Xmas presents down the phone line TrWad. May you and you Offspring live long.Im suprised that people are still confused on using the prog though Start "Font edit.exe" Load "Font.pc" found in the graphix folder Click on "Save TGA" Open this tga in photoshop or a paint prog that will open tgas Change the font to how you want it without going out of the letter/nimber boundary Save the edited tga Then in font edit load "font.pc" then load your edited TGA then save "font.pc" In the level Converter convert "title.Tom" and Run TR and You have your very own font/or new colour God bless us everyone, except for Cartman ------------------ Currently Working On; The Dragon Ball TR Saga Often in the Chatbox / AOL Instant Messenger Name is : GoTenchiZ , MSN ; Gokuz99@hotmail.com [This message has been edited by GokuZ (edited 12-25-2001).] IP: Logged |
KingSpyder Member Posts: 124 From: Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 12-26-2001 05:13 AM
Right, I understand how to use the program (as explained by GokuZ) but, what I'm trying to find out is if ALL the OTHER levels also need to be re-built after editing the fonts. For instance, does the first level in TR4 refrence title.tr4 for the legend or does it contain the fonts in itself for this task?------------------ KingSpyder KingSpyder@thefreesite.com KingSpyder's World The Doctor Who Transcripts Project The Original Tomb Raider Conversion Project The Dark! Your Source For Video Tape Labels! IP: Logged |
Wee Bald Man Member Posts: 535 From:Simple Mud Hut (Near Twisted Gnarltree), The Swamp, Dagobah, Distant Sluis Sector of the Outer Rim Territories Registered: May 2001
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posted 12-26-2001 05:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by KingSpyder: what I'm trying to find out is if ALL the OTHER levels also need to be re-built after editing the fonts. For instance, does the first level in TR4 refrence title.tr4 for the legend or does it contain the fonts in itself for this task?
Hi KingSpyder, Thanks for providing the bubbly.  If any changes are made to text in a level then the level itself must be re-built to apply the changes. You don't have have to re-build ALL the levels, only the one with the changes made to it. Text includes: Level names, Legends, and in-game Menus. The title.wad does not act as a reference for the other levels. It should be treated in the same way as a 'level', i.e. if you make changes to anything in the title.wad (for example, the level names), you only have to rebuild the title.wad to see the changes applied. Salut!  WBM
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KingSpyder Member Posts: 124 From: Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 12-27-2001 05:27 AM
Finally! Thanks WBM!
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Driber_IF Moderator Posts: 1972 From:Den Haag, The Netherlands Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-04-2002 08:18 AM
wow, great job Michiel! if you want a link to your program on the TRLE tools list on the FAQ page, just let me know  ------------------ Tomb Raider - Ancient Legends levels (2), walkthroughs, tutorials, wallpapers and other TR goodies on driber.cjb.net visit the TRLE Chatbox for live online help or just to get to know your fellow forum members 
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jeffrey van oort Member Posts: 830 From:Monkey Island Registered: Jun 2001
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posted 01-05-2002 02:25 AM
Question:Does anybody has the same number & marks type as tr2 or tr1. I really love those types. If you have got it, could you send it to me then. Thank you. ------------------ Lost Tombraider treasures. IP: Logged |