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Lara's Soul
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posted 12-24-2001 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara's Soul   Click Here to Email Lara's Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to use Lara's hat from TRChronicles Submarine levels to my outfit. I can't retexture TR5 meshes, so I export the head mesh and import it to a normal TR4 outfit. But when I play the level the ponytail is in wrong position! The starting position is more up&left then the ponytail turns and continues rightly down. I'm using Strpix 3,7. Please help!

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posted 12-24-2001 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
try here! (and thanx for asking cause i never would have done the forum search, rusulting that i wouldn't have known either.)
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posted 12-24-2001 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for craziej2k   Click Here to Email craziej2k     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is how to fix the problem

http://home.acadia.net/userpages/vagrant/tr4/larasfix.html

hope that helps

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posted 12-25-2001 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara's Soul   Click Here to Email Lara's Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I make this and it works OK for mesh 31 (Lara's head). But when I try to do the same thing for mesh 47 (Lara's head while she's firing), the strpix 3,7 finds error or the level chases in lodding. What need I to do?

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posted 12-25-2001 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you import the new mesh for her 'firing' head also?

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posted 12-25-2001 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara's Soul   Click Here to Email Lara's Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tomb_Raider_Nut:
Did you import the new mesh for her 'firing' head also?


Yes, but when I try to put the "firing head's" ponytail in the right position (as I did with normal head) and then run the level converter says me an error and closes.

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posted 12-25-2001 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what wad are you using.

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posted 12-25-2001 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara's Soul   Click Here to Email Lara's Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm using TR5 Russia Outfit.

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posted 12-25-2001 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what i ment was what tr4 wad are you using.

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posted 12-25-2001 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, i just remembered somthing. sometimes i find that the new strpix's will corupt files if new meshes are added. so download an older strpix (i have an old one on my site) and open up your outfit wad with all the changes, and save it in the old strpix.

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posted 12-25-2001 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara's Soul   Click Here to Email Lara's Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm using TR4 tut1 wad and I want to change the meshes (becuse I can't retexture a TR5 outfit). I have take the meshes from TR5 Russia Outfit.

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posted 12-25-2001 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lara's Soul:
I'm using TR4 tut1 wad and I want to change the meshes. I have take the meshes from TR5 Russia Outfit.

that wads fine, cause i've noticed that some wads extracted from tr4 don't work well for me, if i changed them in any way.

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posted 12-25-2001 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara's Soul   Click Here to Email Lara's Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My problem is with Lara's ponytail. I have fix it in her normal head. But when Lara fires her ponytail goes to the wrong position of the picture. That's becuse I can't do the fix process in the "firing head" and if I do it PC Level Converter closes with error.

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posted 12-25-2001 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tomb_Raider_Nut:
Oh, i just remembered somthing. sometimes i find that the new strpix's will corupt files if new meshes are added. so download an older strpix (i have an old one on my site) and open up your outfit wad with all the changes, and save it in the old strpix.


did you try this? change everything including her 'firing' head before you open it in the old strpix.

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posted 12-25-2001 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Turbo_Pascal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I guess that your are trying to remap the vertex in the secound head using the vertex index found in the first one, found again the original vertex in thew original secound head and remap again the head.

For avoid strpix3 corrupt custom wads alway use the most recent version found at:

http://www.geocities.com/cyber_delphi/

If the WAD is already corrupted you will jave to start again from a clean WAD.

good luck

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posted 12-25-2001 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
turbo i find that using strpix 3.6 corrupts any imported meshes but i save the file anyway; open it in strpix 3.4 and save it, and volla! it works. (although i don't know if strpix 3.7 will do the same as 3.6., because i haven't tried it yet.)

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posted 12-25-2001 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Turbo_Pascal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tomb_Raider_Nut:
turbo i find that using strpix 3.6 corrupts any imported meshes but i save the file anyway; open it in strpix 3.4 and save it, and volla! it works. (although i don't know if strpix 3.7 will do the same as 3.6., because i haven't tried it yet.)


PLease read this post from few weeks ago
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And what it's concerned to Strpix3 alway get lastes version from my web site.

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posted 12-26-2001 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara's Soul   Click Here to Email Lara's Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tomb_Raider_Nut you had right. Some meshes which don't work with strpix 3.7, work if you save them with strpix 3.4. But my problem remains. The wad don't works if I fix the ponytail's position 2 times. No works if I save it with strpix 3.7 and don't works if I save it with strpix 3.4. Here is a picture of my problem:

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posted 12-26-2001 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Tomb_Raider_Nut you had right.


i'll try fiddling around with the meshes and see if i can get it to work.

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posted 12-26-2001 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To Lara's Soul: Could you send the meshes to me cause for some reason i can't get them.
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posted 12-26-2001 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara's Soul   Click Here to Email Lara's Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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To Lara's Soul: Could you send the meshes to me cause for some reason i can't get them.
trnut86@wi.rr.com

Do you mean to send you Russia outfit?

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posted 12-26-2001 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just the head mesh in dxf format.

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posted 12-26-2001 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara's Soul   Click Here to Email Lara's Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK. I send it to you. Check your e-mail.

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posted 12-26-2001 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got it! i'll start working ont it in 10 min.

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posted 12-26-2001 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you must be doing something wrong.
Cause i tried it and it works.

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posted 12-26-2001 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara's Soul   Click Here to Email Lara's Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you tell me exactly what and with which line you do it?

Have you retexture the meshes? I have retexture them.

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posted 12-26-2001 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lara's Soul:
Have you retexture the meshes? I have retexture them.

They were textured when you sent them to me.

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Can you tell me exactly what and with which line you do it?

First, start out with a fresh wad. (open in strpix3.7) now, write down the vortexs of the head and neck of the non firing head. got to the firing head and check out the vortexs. although they should be the same, it's best to check. now import your desired head mesh for the non firing, and fix it with vortexs and textures. now do the same with the firing wad. save it and enter strpix3.4 (keep both open) open up the wad and save it. (you don't have to make any changes) make a small test room and out put wad. it should work.

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posted 12-26-2001 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara's Soul   Click Here to Email Lara's Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't works for me. PC Level Converter says me an error. But there is a simple soloution. Send me the fixed wad!
larassoul@yahoo.gr

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posted 12-27-2001 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'll send you a wad with lara her animations and anything else that need to be put in the wad for it to work. you can add your all objects that you want when i send it to you.

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posted 12-28-2001 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara's Soul   Click Here to Email Lara's Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tomb_Raider_Nut:
i'll send you a wad with lara her animations and anything else that need to be put in the wad for it to work. you can add your all objects that you want when i send it to you.

Did you send it? I didn't received enything. Can you send it to me soonier please? I'm running out of time. If you can't send this wad send me the wad as it was when it worked for you. Thanks.

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posted 12-28-2001 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the only problem with sending the wad that i had it work with, is that it was one with a custom outfit and stuff for me new level.
i'll try working hard to get it to you.
ther reason i didn't send you anything is that i was having troubles with a wad; one without all the custom stuff.
hopefully, you will have the wad by 9:00 central time.

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posted 12-28-2001 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check your mail! everything should work.

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posted 12-29-2001 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted 12-29-2001 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara's Soul   Click Here to Email Lara's Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It works! Thank you very mutch! It was the best gift for my birthday yesterday!

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posted 12-29-2001 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Birthday eehhh...
Happy belated birthday to you,
Happy belated birthday to you,
Happy belated birthday to Lara's Soul,
Happy belated birthday to you.
i'm gald i could give you such a great gift.

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