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qbg
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posted 01-03-2002 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for qbg   Click Here to Email qbg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't figure out how to create a climbable surface from half-way up the wall. Josep Borrut's Algernons Lab has one, so it is definitely possible. I just can't figure out how he did it. I need one in my level. Suggestions?

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posted 01-03-2002 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Data   Click Here to Email Data     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you not just have multiple rooms on top of one another and then just select the room in which you require the climbable surface?

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qbg
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posted 01-03-2002 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for qbg   Click Here to Email qbg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried that, but unfortunately, the wall does not become climable at all.

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posted 01-03-2002 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Data   Click Here to Email Data     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I assume that you know how to apply a climbable wall so I can only suggest that you may not have the revised wads that would contain all of Laras animations. Is this correct?

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posted 01-03-2002 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRoosevelt_26   Click Here to Email TRoosevelt_26     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay - so you have two rooms, one on top of the other. Now delete the door between them and go to the top room. Select the square and wall square whose border you want to be climbable. Now click all four "climb" buttons. Both wall and square should be dark green. Now make a door in the floor of this room to the one below.

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TRoosevelt_26
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posted 01-03-2002 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRoosevelt_26   Click Here to Email TRoosevelt_26     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love your topic title!! Describes me to a 'T'! *lol*

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qbg
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posted 01-03-2002 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for qbg   Click Here to Email qbg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TRoosevelt_26:

Okay - so you have two rooms, one on top of the other. Now delete the door between them and go to the top room. Select the square and wall square whose border you want to be climbable. Now click all four "climb" buttons. Both wall and square should be dark green. Now make a door in the floor of this room to the one below.

That sounds good. I will try it.

I love your topic title!! Describes me to a 'T'! *lol*

I don't know what made me come up with that topic title. Maybe it's just because I'm a mad person.


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posted 01-03-2002 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for qbg   Click Here to Email qbg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry to say this, but it didn't work. I'm still puzzled. Josep Borrut managed to do it. But how? How? HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW?

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Driber_IF
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posted 01-03-2002 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the reason why Lara won't climb the wall is because when your room is stacked, you need to apply the green climb button in ALL room, also the rooms below the actual room where you climb the wall

this should also be explained in the manual somewhere IIRC

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posted 01-03-2002 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raider Of Tombs' Clone   Click Here to Email Raider Of Tombs' Clone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But that would defeat the object of the whole exercise and purpose of the post - get a ladder to only affect half the wall.

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Phabius Phodes
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posted 01-03-2002 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phabius Phodes   Click Here to Email Phabius Phodes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guess one of the VCI levels in TRChronicles had a situation like that. The room in which you have to use a rope, swing and jump to a partially climbable wall near a high small corridor at right. Then you use the climbable wall to get to the small corridor...

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posted 01-04-2002 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael P   Click Here to Email Michael P     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, why don't you ask Josep then... jborrut@tinet.org

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posted 01-04-2002 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for qbg   Click Here to Email qbg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have sent him an e-mail. Hopefully, he will reply.

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posted 01-05-2002 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for qbg   Click Here to Email qbg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still in the subject, does anyone know how to make a ceiling vertical vent climbable? I have thought of the above question, and it probably is impossible as I realized Borrut played a cunning trick on me. It LOOKED like it started half - way up the wall, but there was water directly below. It was clever use of textures. However, the vertical ceiling vent thing IS NOT impossible.Does anyone know how to do this?

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posted 01-05-2002 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRWad   Click Here to Email TRWad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Topic title: Another day, another problem, another set of underpants...

Maybe wearing the underpants from yesterday helps

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Driber_IF
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posted 01-05-2002 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by qbg:
Still in the subject, does anyone know how to make a ceiling vertical vent climbable? I have thought of the above question, and it probably is impossible as I realized Borrut played a cunning trick on me. It LOOKED like it started half - way up the wall, but there was water directly below. It was clever use of textures. However, the vertical ceiling vent thing IS NOT impossible.Does anyone know how to do this?

if I misunderstood the question, then please ignore this:

if you want to monkey swing over water, you have to place the monkey swing zone in the lowest of the stacked rooms, in this case, being the water room

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qbg
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posted 01-05-2002 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for qbg   Click Here to Email qbg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, monkey swinging is a horizontal movement. I'd love to give you a screenshot of what I'm talking about, but I don't know how to upload one.

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Driber_IF
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posted 01-05-2002 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you need to upload it to a webspace server and post the image here

or, e-mail me the screenshot and I'll stick it up for you if you like

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posted 01-05-2002 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for qbg   Click Here to Email qbg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a screenshot to show you what I'm talking about. Thanks, Driber.

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Driber_IF
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posted 01-05-2002 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Driber_IF   Click Here to Email Driber_IF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, that screenshot makes your problem more clear

to make that side of the wall climbable, you need to assign the green wall button to the square NEXT to the wall you want to climb on

it's a very tricky thing to apply a climbable surface with the wall buttons, but the manual should cover it somewhere

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posted 01-05-2002 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for qbg   Click Here to Email qbg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It works now. Good.

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