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From:Den Haag, The Netherlands
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posted 01-15-2002 01:36 AM               

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please post any OCB code settings you know of here, I'm making a list of all known OCB codes to be placed on the TRLE FAQ page

also add a small description of what the setting does, for which object it is and in which wad the object is (if it's not a standard object)

screenshots of the OCB code effect will be very welcome
when posting screenshot, only post a link to the image, don't use the [img] ubb code please

Ps. no sigs please

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posted 01-15-2002 06:38 AM               

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128 to ammuntion makes it appear when it's gone in your inventory. that's the only one besides the ones in the manule that i can think of right now.

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posted 01-15-2002 08:56 AM               

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If you type 888 in the OCB of the flame emitter 3 you get the ball of lightening (like in TR1) that 'follows' Lara, catches her alight, and kills her.

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posted 01-15-2002 09:31 AM               

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Type -53 into OCB when you wish to have 'flame emitter 1' blow out flames in the direction of the cone at a timed interval.

To use this, place the flame emitter in a 1 tiled adjacent room, with the emitter facing toward the door, and place a (toggle opacity) texture over the door. The flame will then come through the wall when triggered, at the fixed timed interval.

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posted 01-15-2002 09:44 AM               

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1. Typing -1 in the OCB of a FLAME_EMITTER makes it shoot out vertical puffs of flame.
2. Typing -1 into the HAMMER makes it work.
3. Depressing buttons 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 in the OCB make an object be triggered from the beginning (without even placing a trigger). Then the triggers for that object become anti-triggers.

I will add replies as I think of more...

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posted 01-16-2002 11:56 AM               

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Lowin -> check you mail. I sended a list with all codes used in the official game (I didn't has time to upload it)

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posted 01-16-2002 02:35 PM               

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TRWad's OCB list uploaded HERE

wow Michiel, that's a great list! where did you get it?

if anyone knows more about what the OCB settings from that huge list exactly do or has screenshots of it, feel free to post it on this thread

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posted 01-16-2002 02:59 PM               

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Hi Michiel,

That's a huge list of OCBs (!)

Is it correct to assume that an OCB of 0 (zero) has no effect?

WBM

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posted 01-17-2002 10:50 AM               

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Originally posted by Wee Bald Man:
Hi Michiel,

That's a huge list of OCBs (!)

Is it correct to assume that an OCB of 0 (zero) has no effect?

WBM

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Right. 0 is no special code, but my pc (who made the list) put it in anyway to show all posible codes (for the case some objects don't work with 0)

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From: yellaV of the sgniK, tpygE
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posted 01-17-2002 10:56 AM               

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So if -60 is entered in a mummy's OCB, it lies down dead until triggered like a skeleton with OCB 3?

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posted 01-17-2002 10:59 AM               

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Hurray! I tried entering -3 but of course the mummies just stood still against the wall until they were triggered. This is an invaluable list, TRwad!

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posted 01-17-2002 12:17 PM               

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These are all codes used in the original game. Every code is used.
Want a list from TR5 too (TR4&5 are the only ones with OCB)

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posted 01-17-2002 01:44 PM            

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Driber, would it be possible to have a text version of that list, so I don't have to edit out the HTML?

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posted 01-17-2002 01:52 PM               

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http://www.9cy.com/members/trlw/ocb.txt

there ya go

Dj

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posted 01-17-2002 07:47 PM               

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it would be nice to have what all the ocb's do on the chart. anyway great list!

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posted 01-18-2002 03:48 AM               

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Originally posted by Tomb_Raider_Nut:
it would be nice to have what all the ocb's do on the chart. anyway great list!

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that was the purpose of this thread
if you try out any of the OCB code settings on TRWad's list, please post the result on this thread and I will place it all on the TRLE FAQ page

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posted 01-20-2002 05:07 AM               

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The ocb list is great but 1 problem. What does it do when you enter that code ??? It would be handier if you putted behind the codes another colom that explains what it does...cause this way i have to test what it does...

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posted 01-20-2002 06:49 AM               

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That's why the list is here. To find out what it means. The problem is that this file isn't created by a human, but by my computer. And the codes are not tested, that takes to much time. And the computer didn't know what codes were known by me or others.

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posted 01-20-2002 07:25 AM               

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So we have to find out for ourselves what they do and post them here...hmmm..

question, where can i find the prj for the added levels. Cause i have the wads of most levels like Hypostile hall etc but i dont have the prj for it. Where can i find these...

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posted 01-20-2002 09:17 AM               

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Yasin,

Use TR2PRJ. Youīll be able to convert almost all TR levels from the original CDs into PRJ files. The levels from TRLR come with triggers and ocb settings for all objects! Its very cool!

And the idea of this thread is right. Now that we have the list, we MUST test the numbers and POST the results HERE. If everyone helps, weīll have a complete list with features very soon!

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posted 01-20-2002 10:44 AM               

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Where can i find this Tr2Prj thingi Fabio ? A url would be handy.

and yes agree with you. If everyone co-operates with the list we should have in no time a full list.

First i need also some extra links.

Where can i find all wads, cause i dont have the complete serie.

Thanks

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posted 01-20-2002 10:49 AM               

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Never mind i got the wads from Geckokids site, also got tr2prj from it.

Now i dont have Tr4 last relevation but i can borrow it from a cousin of mine to extract the tr files from it. Thanks Fabio.

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posted 01-20-2002 11:20 AM               

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Ok got this prj thing but it seems i cant let it work... How does this thing works...

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posted 01-20-2002 02:54 PM            

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What is the problem you have?
Does the program not run? Make sure you have zlib.dll in the same directory, or somewhere in your path. I don't include this file because i is freely available in many places, and with TRWest, Strpix, etc.

Does it not load a TR file? If you have a problem with this, let me know which file it is.

Does it not save? Hmmm, does it crash? Not create files? Can't find the file it created?

To use TR2Prj:
1) Doubleclick it.
2) Click Load TR button and browse to the TR4 (or TR3, etc) file you want to load.
3) Check the Objects checkbox if you want to include objects.
4) It won't put textures in the room, so it doesn't matter if you check that box.
5) Click Save All button to create the project. It lets you browse to where you want to save the project.

If you checked Objects, it will let you browse to the Wad file to use.
If you check textures, it will let you browse to the TGA file you want to include in the project. I don't remember if this version creates the TGA file.

Is that simple enough?

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posted 01-20-2002 03:13 PM               

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Aktrekker,

Is there a version that can do textures already?

And

Try saving "Sewers" from TR3. It performs an illegal operation and shuts down. It happens on a few more levels from TR3, canīt remember the names... "Roofs" maybe...

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posted 01-20-2002 04:59 PM            

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Unfortunately, TR3 is the one game I don't have. Make sure the version you have is dated Nov 8, as that is the last version I made.
If you do have the latest version, I'll have to get ahold of one of the levels that crashes it so I can figure out what is wrong.

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From:Valmiera, Latvia
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posted 01-22-2002 12:33 PM               

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I tested some ocb's for the lightning conductor, element puzzle, and flame emmiter.
Well here they are:

Flame emmiter -59 & -57 are the same jets, but with 'long breaks'.
-43 was a smaller break.
-2 & -7 don't have breaks.

The lightning conductor, as I mentioned somewhere earlier in this forum is just a vertical 'electric' thingy familiar to what flame emmiter3 with 1,2,3 or 4 in ocb.

Element puzzle with 0 in ocb is a water puzzle, works perfectly with the small waterskin.
1 is for the fire puzzle, I know this could be originaly done with jerycan and torchlight, but I couldn't do this.
2 stands for the earth puzzle, which could be originally completed with the bag of sand, but I couldn't do this one too.
3 does absolutely nothing.

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posted 01-23-2002 01:01 PM               

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OCB settings for Waterfall.

If you need to antitrigger a waterfall for some reason, put 668 in the ocb. Then, after itīs triggered, the waterfall will be antitriggered with a simple antitrigger.
If you donīt put 668 in the ocb, the waterfall wonīt be antitriggered.

Iīve tested this with the waterfalls from Tomb of Seth and Karnak. Works ok.

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posted 01-28-2002 04:55 AM               

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1 entered in the OCB of the CHAIN object (the swinging blade from Inside Menkaure's Pyramid) enables it to hurt Lara; if not, it doesn't harm her. I belive it is like this, 'cause I've used the blade in my first level without OCB and it didn't hurt Lara. In my upcoming Rome Raider level, I put 1 into the CHAIN's OCB and it works.

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posted 02-03-2002 07:55 AM               

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I fooled around with the hammer and found these remarkable behaviors.
1 = normal hammer ( hammer smashes, chain lifted then smashes again, and so on... )

2 = Hammer smashes while lara stays on the trigger, when she steps of, the hammer will remain in his position, so if it was lifted up it will just stop and stay that way. makes explosive sound when smashes

3 = same as above but when lara gets of the trigger it first gets lifted to the ceiling and then it stops.

-1 -2 and -3 normal hammer behavior

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I deleted this one first then replyed again since signatures werent allowed

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posted 02-03-2002 09:07 AM               

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Animating 3 from Library wad, the big cog wheel.

Put 1-2-3 or 4 doesnt matters to animate it when triggered. 1-2-3-4 have no special properies like faster spin or something. I can now use this cog in my level

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posted 02-03-2002 09:11 AM               

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Propably everyone knows this, but since it took me some time to discover it, and others might have familiar problems 1 added in the ocb of pulley enables it to really trigger something.

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posted 02-03-2002 09:30 AM               

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when you enter 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, and bigger numbers in the Ocb of a baddy, the secound Baddy will come after you killed the first one, the third will come after killing the secound etc.

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posted 02-03-2002 12:32 PM               

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Oh WOW! I saw the 1000+ numbers in some levels, but hadn't found out what it did yet.

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posted 02-03-2002 01:11 PM               

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I'm gonna start working through TRWAD's list. I'll post my findings as I find them

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