posted 04-05-2002 07:28 AM               

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posted 04-06-2002 06:30 AM               

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originally posted by AprilRyan:
.....it will use a heavily modified version of the TR engine

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If permission has not been given by Core Design and Eidos Interactive, please read the following.

The 'Legal Disclaimer' section of the Level Editor manual clearly states:

"Your levels cannot contain any modifications or changes to any executable file included in this distribution or those distributed with Tombraider: The Last Revelation"

I would suggest that permission is sought from Core Design and Eidos Interactive before posting any subsequent information, screenshots or downloads.

Thank you
Data.

posted 04-06-2002 06:44 AM               

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Originally posted by GokuZ:
[B...."Your levels cannot contain any modifications" are we not all guilty of this?[/B]

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Mr GokuZ, was your question rhetorical?, if not my answer would be; 'These are the facts. It is my responsibility to point them out to other members, however, only Core design and Eidos Interactive can enforce them'.

posted 04-06-2002 06:52 AM               

Cool. Sound like a great addon. Plus you can update it unlike the Editor included with TRC

Just to state the obvious any level made with any editor add on has used some kind of reverse enginering but does not change the exe's in anyway.

And technically Data in that cut bit of text says that " distributed with Tombraider: The Last Revelation " which the editor did not come with!

So if you created a New editor that did not alter the game code or editor exe then it should be allowed (Anyway they have also stated that they dont support the editor in anyway!)

Ok so don't take this as legal advise. Consult Core Design and Eidos if you want.

Thanks
PSXSAVES

posted 04-06-2002 12:07 PM               

I know of several people who have had their sites shutdown by Eidos lawyers as they contained the tomb4.exe file (modified and un-modified). So, don't waste time modifying the tomb4.exe, you can achieve the same result that you are after by doing the following (this may just be fantasy on my behalf but it's just an idea):

1) Create your outdoor world terrain generator program as a stand-alone program which is capable of outputing TOM files (this is the bit that might be my fantasy ).

2) The TOM files can then be converted to TR4 files using the tom2pc.exe program supplied.

3) The PRJ files can then be extracted from the resulting TR4 file by TR2Prj.

4) The resulting PRJ file can then be opened using the TR Level Editor and then copied and pasted into the designer's project.

None of the above steps infringe the License Agreement.

Good luck.

WBM

P.S. The above theory is open to a good slagging by all those qualified.

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posted 04-07-2002 04:14 PM               

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Originally posted by aktrekker:
What if we could export all of the room meshes as a single file, view and modify all of the meshes as one, then import the whole thing back again?

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If we could it would allow us to make some amazing looking new levels.

How would the floor squares system continue to function though? Wouldn't Lara's interactivity with surfaces and the map collision become confused if the floor geometry was changed? I haven't tried this yet but I gather that TRViewer exports and imports room DXFs, but the modified geometry has to be above the floor level - kept out of Lara's reach.

Even if it was not possible to change the floor without causing problems, it would still be much more desirable for practical reasons to be able to export the whole level as a single mesh.

One immediate problem I can foresee with this is the issue of accidental movement of vertices used to indicate doors. Presumably the TR level editor would need those vertices to remain as rectangular / square portals. The problem would be indicating visually which vertices these were in a single DXF mesh of the entire level.

I'm don't know whether DXF is able to support the locking of XYZ axis of vertices. It may be possible to use locked 3DS groupings, or named DXF layers, to either lock off or indicate important vertices. Again this is all theory..

WBM